And it really helped me like, I really repented. I was like, man, I am not taking this nearly

seriously enough.

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What's up guys? Jeff and Jeremy here. Another episode of Five- Minute Fatherhood. We have a,

what I would call a tougher question on this

week's podcast. And that is, is a period of separation okay for a struggling marriage? Or we got asked this actually in our. So this is real life question, by the way, too. We're not pulling us from Thaneer. This is from our Facebook group. A guy in the group said, can we support a period of separation from a marriage that is really struggling? Now, I'm interested to hear Jeremy's thoughts. I think I'll

start with a couple qualifiers. I think first we have to realize that, man, this is such a deeply

complex issue that you have to descend into the particulars. I think this is a real tough conversation

and almost unhelpful or unnecessary at the 30,000 foot level. Now, of course, the scripture does have a 30,000 foot level value system that'll impose down on us, but just like any Christian ethical question that's really tough, then you have to descend that into the particulars, which is a phrase I think I've heard from the Jesuits, which I love that phrase, descending into the particulars. And you have to.

You have to because if you only stay up there, then sometimes it can be kind of more like a club that isn't helpful in one way or the other.

And then one other nuance I would say too is, yeah, I just I just know stories all across the board that, you know, first of all I would say like the one I would say too is separation for any type of abuse, you know, first of all, I would say, like, the one I would say, too, is separation for any type of abuse, you know, verbal, emotional, and certainly domestic and physical, is, like,

necessary, right? Like, there is no calling, in my opinion. There is no theological implication

for you to stay in that, right? For your soul to just kind of be corroded and abused. That's not,

there's judgment on that man. And I think that doesn't mean that can play out a bunch of different

ways, but I do think getting out of that situation is first. And then two, I would say,

I also, though, have heard of a million different situations across the board where I've heard of a

separation that, not because of abuse or anything, but just was really, really helpful

because, and another way to put it is like, yeah, their soul was almost being corroded by like

the toxicness of the relationship and the, the, the communication problems and the, just it was

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