Ep 184 – The Power of a Mormon POTUS

Naked Mormonism Podcast

Bryce Blankenagel

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4.7 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2019

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, we discuss the continued growing tensions between the Mormon and non-Mormon settlements in Illinois in early 1844. The Nauvoo City Council renews its effort to get an ordinance passed through the state legislature from Dec. 1843 which claimed Nauvoo to be a sovereign territory as well as the Nauvoo Legion to be a federally-recognized militia. How did they work to lobby this through the State legislature? By harping on the same persecution narrative resulting from the 1838 Missouri-Mormon conflict. This dead horse keeps on giving. Eventually, Governor Thomas Ford steps in to try and cool things down. The unsatisfied Warsaw Signal prints his letter with their commentary and Jo prints a concession in the Nauvoo Neighbor. Thomas Ford’s History of Illinois (1854) reflects on this complicated time when Jo decided to run for POTUS.

Links:

Warsaw Signal archives:
http://warsaw.advantage-preservation.com/search?t=30053&i=t&bcn=1&m=between

Thomas Ford’s letter (14 Feb 1844)
http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/IL/sign1844.htm#0214

A History of Illinois by Thomas Ford
https://archive.org/details/ahistoryillinoi00shiegoog/page/n320

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Transcript

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0:00.0	I am Ryan McKnight. I'm Kara Santa Maria. I am Christopher Smith. Hi, I'm Andrew Torres.
0:05.9	This is Naked Mormonism. The Serial Mormon History podcast. Tensions were high between the Mormon and the non-Mormon settlements in Hancock County, Illinois of early 1844.
0:30.4	We've been discussing this extensively for many episodes because this is an accumulating effect
0:36.5	that will continue to more heavily influence our timeline
0:39.6	as we edge ever closer to the shootout in Carthage jail in just a few short months.
0:45.3	We should note that it's not just with retrospect that we can see these tensions building.
0:50.6	They were felt quite prominently at the time, and some small methods were taken to relieve a little bit of that building pressure.
0:58.9	Joe called a meeting of the city council to review some of the ordinances that they had passed, which were causing the citizens of Carthage and Warsaw,
1:06.7	to be so infuriated by the Mormon overreach of power. This is from the Dan Vogel History of
1:13.0	the Church Source and Text Critical Edition, Volume 6, page 233. Quote, Monday, February 12th, 1844,
1:21.4	I sat in the city council and recommended the repeal of the ordinances entitled, an extra ordinance for the extra
1:28.6	case of Joseph Smith, an ordinance to prevent unlawful surge and seizure of persons or property
1:33.6	by foreign process in the city of Navu, and an ordinance regulating the currency, and they
1:39.2	were repealed accordingly. The memorial to Congress passed December 21, 1843, was again read and signed by the
1:46.8	councillors, alderman, mayor, recorder, and marshal. I instructed counselor Orson Pratt
1:52.9	to call all the Illinois representatives together and tell them our sufferings have been such that
1:58.9	we must have that document passed, and we will have it.
2:03.7	You must go in for it. Go to John Quincy Adams and ask him to call the delegation from other
2:08.9	prominent men. Call public meetings in the city of Washington. Take the saloon, publish the
2:14.6	admittance so much per ticket, invite the members of both houses to come and
2:18.2	hear you and roar upon them. You may take all my writings you think anything of and read to them,
2:23.9	et cetera, and you shall prosper in the name of God, amen, end quote. Now, that memorial to Congress
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