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Michael Covel's Trend Following

Ep. 184: Cal Newport Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

Michael Covel

Business, Investing

4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2013

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Cal Newport, an American non-fiction author and associate professor of computer science at Georgetown University.

The topic is passion.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Alan Watts
  • Why following your passion isn't such a great idea from Newport's perspective
  • The notion of deliberate practice and the 10000 hour rule, falling back on simplistic strategies that fail
  • Passion following success as the true gauge
  • Misconceptions about passion
  • Thinking of passion as a side-effect of running your career in the right way
  • Overcoming difficulty as a necessary step in the process
  • The work and analysis Newport has done looking at top chess players
  • The systematic aspect of gaining skill and its ties to passion
  • Anxiety and failure

Jump in!

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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

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Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

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Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

0:10.9

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

0:21.1

I am your host, Michael Covel.

0:24.0

Not filtered, raw, honest.

0:27.4

That's my passion.

0:32.7

I guess today is Cal Newport.

0:36.3

And Cal is writing on a really cool subject.

0:40.6

Passion.

0:42.3

How to find your passion.

0:45.4

You hear it all the time, right?

0:47.7

Go find your passion.

0:49.6

Chase your passion.

0:53.5

Cal comes at it from a different perspective.

0:58.3

It comes out of from the perspective and how I have come to have the passions in my world.

1:06.9

My passions are twofold, starting out with trading, specifically trend following trading,

1:14.1

and then also having this passion to teach other people and show them what I've figured out.

1:24.8

But when I started both of those endeavors, I didn't wake up and say to myself,

1:31.7

I'm so passionate about this today.

1:34.5

I was motivated.

1:36.5

I wanted to learn.

1:39.3

I remember going through so much trend following material.

1:43.5

And I remember early on, even though I had a few

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