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Today's guest is Greg Hetson, lead guitarist for the Los Angeles California punk rock band Circle Jerks.

Together we break down the writing, recording, and inspiration behind back against the wall.

Ticking for their 1980 debut album, Group Sex.

Greg informed me that Back Against the Wall

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