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Hi friends and welcome to the papaya podcast.

I'm your hostess, Try and Hermostis, Sarah Nicole.

And each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed in with some seeds of wisdom or something like that.

So get ready to get inspired, get candid,

get real, because we are all in this digital space together.

All right, everyone, I am here with my first male guest.

I'm so honored. You should be. I am. This is definitely first for us. I've so honored. You should be.

I am.

This is definitely a first for us. I'm so excited that you're here. Everyone, this is Paul Fishman. I just called him Fisherman. So rude. Yeah, he had to correct me a little bit. I hate fishing. Do you actually? Yeah, I don't like it either. I mean, it's just like as a boy, like, you know, you have to go fishing.

I don't know.

It's just like a thing that I had to do.

And I just wasn't good at it.

And like nature. And, you know, it was rough for me as a child. Can I be honest? Like I'm one of those people that I'm so inspired by people who like go hiking and get muddy and do all these things. And I'm like, I hate dirt on me. Like I'm not like a, like I love nature, but like I don't like the second that I'm like, I get like uncomfortable when I get like dirty or feel like gritty or gross. Like when I was a kid, I wouldn't even like use an outhouse. My parents were like, we would have to like drive you into town to like go to the bathroom because you wouldn't use like an outhouse. And then as a kid in

public school, I wouldn't like use the public washrooms. Like I was so weird about things. But I'm not even a germaphyl, like not even a little. I just love that your parents would do that for you. Like my dad would be like, so we're going on the side of the road. Yeah. To be honest, apparently I made a bit of a issue out of it. And I think that I said to my mom, I'm not going in that cow stink. And it was three days or close, I don't know how long it was, but I was, I was a toddler. And I was like holding it for a day. So they got really worried that I was going to like have an infection, which was like valid. So they definitely didn't coddle me or anything like that, but I think that was just one of those times they were like, nope, we're not going to have an infection, which was, like, valid. So they definitely didn't coddle me or

anything like that, but I think that was just one of those times they were like, nope, we're not

going to do that. And we're just going to, like, we're just going to let her go to the bathroom

somewhere else. I think it was a true act of self-love on your part. It was a definitely, like, this is a non-negotiable, and I have to do this. Three-year-old mesa had some sass to her, I think.

So anyways, Paul Fishman,

tell us who the heck you are because you kind of slid into my DMs like months ago. Months. And we have like this online obsession with each other now. And I'm so in love with everything you do. You're such a light. You're such, I feel like I say that to everyone who comes on this podcast, but I literally, it's because I handpicked people who are like such a light.

And I know that like I say that to everyone who comes on this podcast, but I literally, it's because I handpick people who are like such a light. And I know that like I have an ability to share that light because you're shining so brightly. I need the whole friggin world to understand who the heck you are. So you tell us who you are and give us your origin story and how the heck you got to what you're doing now. Okay. Well, my name's Paul

Fishman. I am a self-love coach and you do you activists. My mission is to empower and inspire

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