Hello and welcome to episode 178 of the Thinking El-Sat podcast in Sacramento, California.

I'm Nathan Fox with me in Vienna, Virginia.

Ben Olson.

What's happening, Ben?

Not a whole lot.

Almost recovered from my sickness. Oh, yeah, I saw you.

I was at your house like two days ago.

I can't believe that.

I broke into your garage at 3 a.m.

You did.

I had no idea.

So you, you're a good, what is it?

Stealth guest, stealth house guest.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean.

I am an excellent thief as long as you just give me the code to open your garage.

Then I'm really good at it. But apparently I was able to break in in the middle of the night without

waking any of the Olsen boys, which is, that's pretty amazing.

Yeah, yeah that is pretty good. Today on the show, we are, we have an interview,

we're real excited about attorney and author Rachel Gezorsay,

who just wrote a book called the Law Career Playbook and we have a great

interview with her all about how to hustle and get yourself a job in law.

Ben what do you want to say about that interview, which we pre-recorded?

...