Yeah, well, I understand that ultimately risk management is going to be more important if you're going to be successful, risk management is going to be more important than necessarily the methodology you ultimately gravitate to.

Second, you need to develop a methodology that does have an edge, meaning it doesn't have to be a big edge,

but it means over time you're making more money than you're losing, and it's a repeatable process,

it's well defined, and it doesn't generate huge drawdowns to get your, you know, upside.

So you have to develop a methodology of an edge.

And it takes time.

And not everybody's going to be able to do it.

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Welcome back, everybody, to the Steady Trade podcast.

It's Stephen Johnson and I and our amazing guest, Jack Schweger, today.

Jack and I go back, gosh, it's been probably seven years, right?

Seven, eight years?

Since you wrote your book.

Yeah, yeah.

We met in New York City where I had a good fortune to interview Jack with him doing all the interviews.

It was nice to put him on the other

side of that conversation. Jack, of course, is a recognized industry expert in futures and hedge

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