Hey guys, welcome to Relatable Happy Friday. I am so excited about today's conversation that we're going to have. It's Jeremy Volo.

You might know him. He is an own person in his own right. You might know him as ginger formerly.

Dougher's husband. He is he used to be a pastor. He's now in seminary and he has been on the show counting on, which of course is the continuation of the Dougher's original show.

And he is just awesome. And I'm so excited for you to hear the conversation that we are going to have. So without further ado, here's Jeremy.

Jeremy, thank you so much for joining me.

Oh, it's my pleasure.

So for those who don't know, tell us who you are and what you do.

Yeah. So my name is Jeremy Volo. I am. What do I do? Well, I'm a Christian. And currently I'm attending the master's seminary in Los Angeles, California.

We're a pastor, John MacArthur. It's the seminary that he began with Grace Community Church. My wife Ginger formerly Ginger Dugger and I were living in Texas for the last couple of years.

I was there for about six years. She was there since we've been married since 2016.

And we have a little daughter, 15 month old Felicity and just made the move out to the West Coast in June and are really enjoying exploring the city and kind of settling down here.

And yeah, just beginning life, life together in a new place.

Cool. I have so many questions about everything you just said. My first question is, how did you meet Ginger formerly Dugger? Because probably everyone that is listening to this notes exactly who that is.

And I bet they're very interested to hear the story.

Yeah. So well, it's an interesting story. Actually, there's a bit of mystery to it. There's a so Ben C. Wald, who's my brother-in-law.

Years ago, even before he met the family and was interested in Jessa, had a friend on Facebook who was, I think everybody has one of these guys who's like an elusive character who your friends, you might chat here and there.

And as Christians, they would like encourage each other with scripture and things, but didn't know each other.

And this guy, his name was Matt, was the kind of guy who never had a profile picture of himself.

It was always like a cross or something like that. Yeah. Everyone has like a few of those friends from college.

They're always Christians too. They've always got like the picture of like a cliff or a mountain or the cross on the side of a like a precipice or something.

I totally know what you're talking about.

Oh, yeah. So Ben has this buddy for years on Facebook. And that guy actually was a friend of mine attended the church. I went to in San Antonio, Texas.

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