Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast about how to make your life happier, healthier,

more productive and more creative.

This week we'll talk about why it's a good idea to note the start date of any notable

pain or symptom, and we'll talk to them multi-talented and extraordinarily productive Hollywood

powerhouse Mark DuPlaus about his new memoir with his brother, called Like Brothers.

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose studies happiness good habits in human nature, and

I'm in New York City and with me is my sister who is also multi-talented and extraordinarily

productive.

That's me Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in Los Angeles.

And speaking of being productive Gretchen, I'm in our new office for the fix.

We've been here a couple of weeks, but I'm still not quite set up.

So sorry, I'm calling you for my landline, but I promise I will get my podcasting set

up for next time.

Yeah, I know you've had a lot in your mind.

But Elizabeth, I think today is July 4th, which in the United States of course is our

Forsy July holiday.

And for you and me though, it has special meaning.

Yes, it is our mom's birthday, happy birthday mom.

Happy birthday.

It is such a festive day to have a suburte.

And in fact, it's funny when our mother was little, our aunt thought she was very disappointed

when her birthday came around.

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