Welcome to the Dear Lovejoy podcast, sponsored by cook 100 degree boiling hot water straight from your kitchen tap.

Today we're answering the question, as a society, how long into the future should we be planning?

To answer this question is Roman Kuznarik, I probably said his name wrong because I always do,

who's a social philosopher and has written a book called The Good Ancester,

How to Think Long Term in a Short Term world.

How is my pronunciation of your surname?

You are absolutely perfect.

You did what you're supposed to do, which is say every letter without fear.

Brilliant.

Last time I had you on, we were speaking about hedonism, really, weren't we? Carpdeme.

Seize the day. Seizing the day. We're all about kind of in a way living in the present and how to do it.

And this new book I'm doing is almost the opposite. It's about how do we think even way beyond our

own lifetimes? Before we get to that then, it's an interesting time in the world.

I'm going to try my hardest to get you cancelled.

Not really, but a lot of people are talking about, I know, freedom of speech and thinking

the same way.

It's that goes, you know, you're a social philosopher. That

probably goes against what you were saying in your last book, doesn't it? In what way, what way

do you think it goes against it? Um, just in the fact that we are being told, the big,

the big thought process at the moment is one that there's no freedom of speech and that is stopping and that we all have to think the same way.

Whether this is true or not, I don't know.

But this is why 150 people sign that letter.

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