Hello everybody and welcome to the anti-fata we have Sean here and also Jamie

hello and we have our excellent third on here and also Jamie. Hello.

And we have our excellent third time returning guest or is it fourth time returning guest?

Alex Gendler, what's up Alex?

We brought Alex on to talk about some grave shit that's going down.

Today, what's the day today?

Today is the 28th of February.

On Thursday of last week, of course, the invasion of Ukraine by Russia began. We're now four or five days into that war.

Alex Gendler knows a lot about four or five days into that war.

Alex Gendler knows a lot about Ukraine, Ukraine politics,

greater Russian politics, because his family's from there.

And he actually actually I hear that the town your hometown is actually

under attack right he himself is from there it's not just his family yeah yeah I was born in Harkov in Soviet Ukraine. Went to Soviet school until second grade. I was a proud young

Octoberist and yeah yeah Harkov is the second largest city in Ukraine and this morning the what the

fifth day of fighting the residential apartment blocks in several neighborhoods including the one where I grew up are just being

artillery held just total civilian targets so yeah that's what's going on.

But Alex, some tankies in my mention said that Russia is only targeting official buildings

and not civilians.

Right. I mean, it's also coming to... and not

a country that elected a Jewish president.

We're gonna, we've got to get into this.

Like I said, a grave episode.

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