It is Friday, October 22nd. Welcome to Minnesota sports. I am Zach Smith. Your host

is excited to talk today. We have an awesome guest coming on. I hinted to it a, what a

week ago that he was good to come on last weekend and up having a conflict. So he came

on this week because he is there in Lee, former Buckeye great 2014 national champion is

going to join us on the show to talk all things. Big thing is this. So high state team is

very eerily similar to the 2014 team and I know that's a media narrative that they

want to drive because it sounds good and sells whatever tickets and website clicks. I get

that. But I'm here and I'm bringing Darren in because he's going to talk a lot about

kind of where there are marriages between the two teams and two years and he has some

insider info into how the defense developed in 2014 that makes it even more similar

than anyone else is talking about because what he's going to talk about is is really, I

mean, I didn't even think of it really. And when he brought it up, I was like, shit, it

is so similar. So anyways, Darren's going to come on. We're going to talk about a bunch

of things though. How it was to be coached by Luke fickle. What Darren Lee said to the

off Michigan offensive line before the first player, the 2015 rivalry game because I didn't

even know he did it, but he just told us on the show and it's like, holy shit, that

is an all time great story. So he's going to talk about that. We're going to talk about

Luke fickle since an adi team, talk about his recruiting saga, how he got recruited,

just really a insider account into one of the one of the Buckeye greats, you know, the

last decade or two, really, or of all time. So we're going to talk to him. He's going

to come in. I'm also going to give you a quick analysis of this Indiana team because

I think it's relevant. There's no good college football games this weekend. Other than I've

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