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Young Heretics

Ep. 17: Chaos

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Education, Society & Culture

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2020

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

How do you acknowledge the wild forces of the world without letting them destroy you? Euripides, the youngest Greek tragedian whose work survives, asked exactly this question in his radical, boundary-pushing play "The Bacchae." In this episode of Young Heretics, Spencer Klavan explores how, with the clarity of an artist's vision, Euripides saw the downfall of Athens coming and spoke wisely into the heart of his moment—and our own. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Young Heritage. Today I want to talk about chaos and I want to talk about Antifa.

0:10.3

This is going to be kind of a big sprawling episode. We're going to talk about a lot of different

0:15.9

works of literature. Specifically in particular I'm going to focus on the Bakae by Euripides,

0:21.4

which is great ancient Greek tragedy. I've mentioned it before on the show as something with a lot

0:26.0

to say to our present moment, but we've never actually gone into it in detail. We're going to do

0:30.8

that, but I'm also going to bring in a bunch of other stuff because I think that this moment,

0:36.4

which we're in, is a moment that sort of hits at the heart of something very deep in the history

0:41.9

of the West. This flotation with anarchy that we've got going on. We're riding in the streets,

0:47.1

we're tearing statues down, or at least some people are doing that, right? Breaking into storefronts,

0:51.1

destroying businesses. That sort of thing, it's very easy to look at that and think, oh my gosh,

0:55.7

it's all about right now. It's all about our problems from five minutes ago. In fact, that sort of

1:00.2

thing is something that has happened in the past before in the history of the West. It's a dynamic

1:06.1

that recurs. I think that this tragedy has a lot to say about why and what this is. That's why

1:12.1

we're doing this. Let me start out by saying that even the people who support groups like Antifa,

1:18.6

and it should be obvious that I am not one of those people, but there are people obviously out there

1:22.6

that think Antifa, Antifascist is this kind of force for good in our society. Even those people,

1:27.5

and even Antifa themselves, agree that the point of it is to break down the barriers of our society,

1:34.3

because our society is unjust, and so the ways that it is structured need to be deconstructed.

1:39.6

A lot of times, the language around this is the language of disruption. They form,

1:43.2

they perform activities that are supposed to disrupt American civilization and Western civilization

1:48.4

and some of those barriers that are being broken down by Antifa include barriers between

1:54.0

property, personal property, the barrier between my personal property, and public property is

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