Ep. 169 - Derek Kubilus ”Holy Hell: A Case Against Eternal Damnation” pt. 1

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4 • 823 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Guest Info/Bio:This week’s guest is Pastor/Author/Podcaster Derek Kubilus. Derek just released a fantastic book on the topic of Hell, how we came to view Hell as we do, and what that says about how we view God. Derek is an ordained elder serving in the East Ohio Conference of the United Methodist Church. He is also a member of the Order of Saint Luke and an amateur podcaster.Guest (select) publications: The Real War on Terror: Waging Holy War in the Peaceful Kingdom; Holy Hell: A Case against Eternal Damnation Check out Derek’s podcast: Cross Over QGuest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @DerekKubilus1Special Theme Music by: Forrest ClayInstagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_kYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social mediaJoin our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen PfluigT-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh! Go to www.hellofresh.com/50deconstruct and use code 50deconstruct for 50% off PLUS free shipping!Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamsonSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0	If you really believed that it was possible for people, and even likely, that most people, would burn for all eternity, you would have a really tough time defending the rest of your life.
0:25.5	That is, your ability to do anything other than engage in some kind of ministry,
0:34.5	some kind of attempt to save those people from that fate.
0:41.2	And I'm not even talking about like full-time professional ministry.
0:44.6	I'm talking about, you know, 120 hours a week eating and sleeping only when you have to.
0:55.7	Because compared to the infinity of eternal torment, your 90 years here on this world ought to be spent
1:07.6	entirely. And when I say entirely, I mean entirely in this mission to quote unquote
1:14.5	save people from that fate, you would never go on vacation. You would never go to the movies.
1:23.8	People would say that Billy Graham was a lazy, terrible evangelist because he spent so much time hanging out with his family.
1:35.2	And you would never ever have children.
1:39.7	You wouldn't, it would be totally immoral to procreate if you thought there was even
1:46.9	a possibility that your children could spend eternity and damnation. You would never do it.
1:59.8	Spend a decade sharing it and kept herself in line until her eyes began to see a light inside the dark.
2:16.8	Welcome to the Deconstructionist podcast.
2:19.1	I'm your host, John Williamson, and we're back this week with a brand new guest.
2:23.7	Before we get to that, though, I want to talk about where you can find all things deconstructionists.
2:28.9	So if you go to www.w.com.
2:33.7	Just recently updated the website, but you can go there and read all of our former blog posts,
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2:52.6	feel free to follow us on TikTok and we'll be posting photos and updates on episodes and all sorts
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