Hey everybody! Welcome to another episode of the Hunting Collective, I am Ben O'Brien.

We are at 168 episodes of this year's program and for almost all of them, or at least half

of them, I have had Phil the engineer at my side, Phil, how are you sir? Hey, how are

you Ben? I'm great. I'm a little, I'm not supposed to get into it. We got a good conversation

today with Pat Durkin. If you don't know Patrick Durkin, you should. PatrickDurkinOutdoors.com

and immediately.com holds his writing. He's one of the best writers in our space. He's

one of the more thoughtful dudes that you'll ever meet. And he is a native of Wisconsin

and has been writing on the outdoors and outdoor issues in Wisconsin for many, many, many

years, probably longer than he'd like to admit. But he is a man you want to go to if you want

to get a good, long look at the Wisconsin Wolf Hunt that happened earlier in February. And

it's quite the saga, Phil. You know much about this. We'll thought how it went down. Have

you been seeing it around since you're now in the community? Just on the peripherals,

I don't really know much about it. Yeah, well, it's an interesting tale. It certainly

has intrigue. It's got politics. It's got courtroom issues. It's got social and political

aspects. It's got cultural aspects. It's got wildlife manages. It's got ecosystems.

It's got almost everything that you'd want to have for many stories. It's almost like

it could be like a Netflix documentary. So hopefully me and Pat did a good job of putting

it out there for you. But there's more that meets the eye in terms of this Wisconsin

Wolf Hunt. We'll talk a little bit before we get there, we'll set that up for you. So

you don't see a hit your ground run when Pat and I get into it. But it really is a good

way to pick up on where we left off last week talking about animal rights and animal welfare

and all the things that go into that ideology because it does come up within the opposition

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