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Naked Mormonism Podcast

Ep 168 – Council of Fifty Pt. 1 William Clayton

Naked Mormonism Podcast

Bryce Blankenagel

Ldschurch, Christianity, Latterdaysaints, Religion, Ldschurchhistory, Mormons, Religion & Spirituality, Mormonhistory, Bookofmormon, Mormonism, Josephsmith, Mormon

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2019

⏱️ 174 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, we begin our deep-dive series into the Council of Fifty. Joseph Smith’s theocracy required organizational structure; the Council of Fifty is how he planned on implementing it. William Clayton was called as scribe for the Council and we discuss his life and role in early Mormonism. Clayton’s journals have been a source of controversy and clandestine institutional secrecy for over a century and a half. We dive into why that is, the journals he kept, and the inner-workings of the controversy. This episode is a classic Naked Mormonism deep-dive and the length was required to do the issue proper justice. We have a quick guest appearance from Sandra Tanner to discuss the lawsuit filed by Andrew Ehat in the early 1980s.

Links:

Council of Fifty Minutes
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/council-of-fifty-minutes-march-1844-january-1846-volume-1-10-march-1844-1-march-1845/389#full-transcript

Council of Fifty Minutes press release
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/council-of-fifty-minutes-to-be-published-in-joseph-smith-papers-release?lang=eng
https://www.churchhistorianspress.org/news/joseph-smith-papers-council-of-fifty-minutes-released?lang=eng

William Clayton
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/william-clayton

Andrew Ehat v. Tanners
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/780/876/148179/

Andrew Ehat v. Tanners conclusion
http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no60.htm#LAWSUIT%20OVER

An Intimate Chronicle; the Journals of William Clayton by George D. Smith
http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/an-intimate-chronicle/

James Allen/George Smith exchange
https://dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V30N02_141.pdf

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I am Ryan McKnight. I'm Kara Santa Maria. I am Christopher Smith. Hi, I'm Andrew Torres. This is

0:08.2

Naked Mormonism. The Serial Mormon History podcast. We are finally back to our historical timeline.

0:20.5

Last week was the next Mormon's interview with Janice and Benjamin Null,

0:24.3

but the week before that, we discussed a prominent feature of 1844 history,

0:29.2

Joseph Smith's bid for President of the United States.

0:33.8

I have previously made the case on this show that Joe represents the worst presidential candidate this country has ever seen.

0:42.5

I even made that case to Tom and Cecil from Cognitive Dissanets podcast in the wake of Trump's election, right?

0:48.8

Well, today we're going to discuss the underlying organizational tools that Joe put into place in order

0:55.3

to run his expected theocracy. The Council of 50. The Council of 50 was to be Joe's

1:03.8

personal counsel upon his presidential election. Alternate historical timelines that don't

1:10.3

include Joe's death. And Carthage, of course,

1:12.5

place this Council of 50 as the central focal point of executing Joe's leadership. Had Joe, by some

1:20.0

stretch of imagination, been elected, the Theocratic Council of 50 is the system by which our

1:26.2

government might operate today. Upon Joe's death, the Council of 50 is the system by which our government might operate today.

1:28.9

Upon Joe's death, the Council of 50 didn't dissolve.

1:31.8

Far from it.

1:32.8

The Council perpetuated in Utah and operated as the Theocratic territorial government

1:38.2

that superseded the powers of secular territorial government.

1:42.4

Even though nearly every elected government officer in the Utah

1:45.8

territory was one of bloody Brigham's cronies, you know, they were also a member of the

1:50.3

Council of 50. But of course, that's the Utah timeline. In Utah, the lines delineating government

1:55.3

and religion simply didn't exist. Government and religious leadership were one in the same

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