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Naked Mormonism Podcast

Ep 165 – Stone Rolling Through Fluid Morality

Naked Mormonism Podcast

Bryce Blankenagel

Ldschurch, Christianity, Latterdaysaints, Religion, Ldschurchhistory, Mormons, Religion & Spirituality, Mormonhistory, Bookofmormon, Mormonism, Josephsmith, Mormon

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2019

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, we discuss how fluid Joseph Smith’s morality and theology really was. We begin with his evolving perspective on slavery from pro-slavery to abolitionist when it was politically advantageous. Then we discuss how Mormonism was strictly monogamous to closeted polygamous when possible. Then Jo goes from socialist when he was poor to capitalist when he was filthy rich. A few court cases reveal Jo’s abuse of power and fluid sense of morality. We discuss Finch & Rollosson grocer and the ultimate result of John Finch’s affiliation with the Mormons.

Links:

Five Times Mormons Changed Their Position on Slavery
https://gregkofford.com/blogs/news/five-times-mormons-changed-their-position-on-slavery

Mosiah 2
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/mosiah/2?lang=eng

Alma 50
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/50?lang=eng

Alma 27
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/27.27?lang=eng

Alma 48
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/48.11?lang=eng&clang=eng#p10

Messenger & Advocate on Abolitionism
https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/7243

JS Presidential Campaign Pamphlet
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/transcript/general-smiths-views-of-the-powers-and-policy-of-the-government-of-the-united-states-7-february-1844?print=true

D&C 101 Monogamy Revelation
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/doctrine-and-covenants-1835/259#historical-intro

What Does the Book of Mormon Say About Polygamy
https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/what-does-the-book-of-mormon-say-about-polygamy

D&C 132
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/132?lang=eng

United Firm
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/topic/united-firm

4 Nephi
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/4-ne/1?lang=eng

Nauvoo City Council Minute Book 1841-1845
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/nauvoo-city-council-minute-book-3-february-1841-8-february-1845/177#full-transcript

JS discourse against socialism
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-14-september-1843-as-reported-by-willard-richards/1#full-transcript

Amos Davis
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/amos-davis

Nov 1842 Nauvoo v. Davis
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/trial-minutes-between-circa-29-and-circa-30-november-1842-city-of-nauvoo-v-davis-for-slander-of-js/1#full-transcript
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/minutes-6-december-1842-city-of-nauvoo-v-davis-for-slander-of-miles/2

John Finch
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/john-m-finch

William Rollosson
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/william-h-rollosson

State of Illinois v. Finch
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/petition-23-november-1843-state-of-illinois-v-finch/1

Finch habeas corpus petition
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/writ-of-habeas-corpus-23-november-1843-a-state-of-illinois-v-finch/2

Finch summary execution
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/execution-15-december-1843-state-of-illinois-v-finch/1#facts

Memorial to the United States
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/memorial-to-the-united-states-senate-and-house-of-representatives-28-november-1843/19#full-transcript

Mentioned in “C” segment
http://club90slc.com/events/

SUNSTONE!!!
https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/2019-salt-lake-summer-symposium/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I am Ryan McKnight.

0:02.5

I'm Kara Santa Maria.

0:04.1

I am Christopher Smith.

0:05.6

Hi, I'm Andrew Torres.

0:07.1

This is Naked Mormonism.

0:10.1

The Serial Mormon History Podcast.

0:15.4

Joseph Smith's morality and theology had an interesting ability to evolve and adapt as the times and his personal

0:24.6

circumstances changed. While reading through the Vogel edition of the History of the Church,

0:30.1

I happened upon a passage that struck me as interesting, and I did some digging only to find out

0:35.1

that basically nothing has been written about the subject to any extent.

0:39.1

So I decided to write today's episode about it.

0:41.6

This is an essay, as usual.

0:43.6

The passage in question has to do with something that's a hot button issue, even today.

0:49.0

Socialism.

0:50.1

But before we get into that passage and discuss what was said in the context around it,

0:53.8

please allow the first portion of this essay to discuss Joe's evolved. But before we get into that passage and discuss what was said in the context around it,

0:59.7

please allow the first portion of this essay to discuss Joe's evolving morality, points that we can plot through his timeline where his morality and his theology changed or altered or

1:05.0

fundamentally flipped from one perspective to a different.

1:08.9

Now, some of these issues we consider settled moral issues today.

1:12.0

Others are still controversial and don't really have a solid moral grounding.

1:16.6

Let's begin with the least controversial moral issue from today's standards,

1:20.3

but one of the most controversial moral issues of the early to mid-19th century in America,

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