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Ep 164 | Job, Come Follow Me (August 1-7)

Talking Scripture

Mike Day & Bryce Dunford

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 β€’ 1.7K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 27 July 2022

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

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β†’ Timestamps:

00:26 – An overview of the two parts of Job: the frame and the poem.

07:35 – In the frame, Job is described as a just and perfect man whose property and children are destroyed, yet he praises and blesses the Lord. In the end, he receives back more than he lost.

16:58 – The poem describes Job’s complaints. He even curses being born.

22:55 – Three friends come to “comfort” Job. How to properly engage with someone who is suffering. Rigid orthodoxies and a lack of true empathy can destroy relationships.

35:10 – Our capacity for joy is connected to pain.

40:38 – When we can’t see the purpose of pain, we can still trust in God’s wisdom. It is not possible for mortals to entirely understand his plan. After Job’s revelatory experience with God, his perspective changes.

46:58 – The ideology of the Deuteronomist is challenged in the poem. Why do bad things happen to good people? Why do good things happen to bad people? The answers may not come in this life, but pain will ultimately be resolved in “the third act.”

53:39 – Jesus, our Redeemer, will overcome all the injustices of mortality.

1:00:45 – Another way to see Job 19.25. The redeemer in this alternate reading is Job’s defender who will one day come and vindicate him, and will defend his statements regarding the injustice of God.

1:03:48 – A hymn to wisdom and then Job’s final speech. The Lord speaks to Job about his mighty works. God’s creative power and wisdom far exceed the Behemoth and the Leviathan.

1:09:43 – The book of Job can also be read as a temple text, a journey that returns Job back into God’s presence.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to Talking Scripture, a podcast where we illustrate relevance and

0:07.5

application to the scriptures and come follow me.

0:10.3

We also dive into the history and cultures of the text.

0:13.5

Thanks for taking the time to share and subscribe to this podcast.

0:17.1

For show notes, head over to our website, TalkingScripture.org.

0:23.6

Welcome to Talking Scripture, I'm Mike.

0:25.3

And I'm Bryce.

0:26.3

And today we're going to be in the Book of Job.

0:29.3

Here all the book is this struggle that Job has because he's perfect and these bad things

0:33.5

happen to him.

0:34.8

And the frame is chapters one and two and also chapters 42 verses seven to the end.

0:39.8

The poem is essentially chapter three to 42 verse six.

0:43.7

Now let me be clear what we mean by the frame.

0:45.5

Can you picture, you're looking at a beautiful portrait on the wall and there's a frame around

0:50.2

the edge of that.

0:51.2

That's what we mean by frame, the first two chapters, the very last part of the last chapter,

0:56.4

that's the frame of Job.

0:58.6

And that's the one that says, yeah, bad things happen, but it's going to get better.

1:02.7

It's going to go away and your blessings in the end are going to be great.

1:06.4

That's that frame message.

1:07.8

And then what we call the poem is kind of the inner portrait.

1:11.6

It's the lengthy debate within the inner chapters about pain and its relationship in mortality.

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