Well, hello! And welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer.

And I'm Dory Sheffrier. And we are not experts.

No, we're not. But we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

And welcome to the show. And this is the part of the show where I'm going to quickly tell you all the business.

Give me the business, Kate. I'm going to give you the biz and then we'll get on with the actual show.

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Okay, Dory, we're here. Let's do ours.

Kate, we both have taken up new hobbies this week.

But are they old hobbies that are new again?

Yes. Right?

We just were old hobbies. We're re-rediscovering ourselves?

Yes. I had a thought about this last night, which is that maybe this is middle-age.

Oh, this is 100% middle-age, which is like dabbling in things and trying things.

Except, no, like you said, it's stuff that we've done before. So I actually view it as like going back to our true authentic selves.

Oh, interesting. No, that's interesting.

So the hobby that you are focusing on right now, piano playing, do you believe that to be your authentic self?

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