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The Deconstructionists

Ep. 162 - Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe ”Native American Spirituality & The Bible” pt. 2

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4823 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Guest Info/Bio:This week’s guest is Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe! Chris serves as both an assistant professor of Classics at Cornell College in Mount Vernon, Iowa, in his capacity of teaching courses on Christianity and world religions , and as director of graduate studies for NAIITS: An Indigenous learning community. Dr. Hoklotubbe (Choctaw) teaches courses on the intersection of race, gender, and sexuality in the Christian Tradition, the New Testament, Roman Religion, Native American Spiritualities, World Religions, and Religion and American Politics. He also co-leads interdisciplinary off-campus courses that explore the theme of pilgrimage along "El Camino de Santiago" in Northern Spain (Summer 2021, with Spanish), the topics of ancient philosophy, religion, politics, and archaeology in Greece and Turkey (Spring 2021, with Classics), and the history, art, and culture of North American Indigenous tribes (coming 2022-23, with Art History). His book, “Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017), brings together his research interests in early Christianity, Greco-Roman archaeology, ancient philosophy, and critical theory. Hoklotubbe has also written on Native American interpretations of the Bible and the concept of "Docetism" in Early Christian studies. He continues to research and write on the Pastoral Epistles and Native American interpretations of the Bible. He’s currently co-writing a book on Indigenous Interpretations of the Bible with Cree First Nations New Testament scholar, Daniel Zacharias, which will be published with InterVarsity Press. Guest (select) publications: Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017)Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @DocHoklo NAIITS: A Learning Community: www.naiits.com Eloheh an Indigenous centyer for Earth Justice: www.eloheh.org Good Medicine Way: https://gmwgathering.org Special Theme Music by: Forrest ClayInstagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_kYouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EPYou can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 for 16 FREE meals PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social mediaJoin our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen PfluigT-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamsonSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Welcome to the wind is gone from ourselves and no one's left to tell my tale.

0:16.9

Welcome to the Deconstructionist podcast.

0:18.7

I'm your host, John Williamson, and we're back with part two with Dr. Chris Hocklutubei. If you haven't listened to Part 1 yet, pause this one,

0:25.8

go back to last week, listen to Part 1, and then you can proceed with Part 2, the conclusion.

0:32.1

And hopefully you guys have enjoyed this one. This was fascinating for me. I'll be honest,

0:35.8

as I said in the first episode, I don't have, I'll be honest, as I said, the first episode,

0:43.7

I don't have, I'll be honest, it's an embarrassing lack of knowledge on Native American spirituality and just Native American history in general as a history person, somebody who loves

0:50.4

history, my degrees in history, you know, we just, unless you kind of go out of your way and really search out information

0:58.9

on the various tribes of which there were many across North America and really dig into

1:05.6

that history and or if you happen to be at a really good school that happens to offer courses

1:10.6

and has good,

1:12.2

uh, good academia, um, in that regard. Um, there's just, you know, it's easy to go through

1:18.7

life without really knowing much about it. And that's kind of the true for a lot of different

1:22.6

things, right? A lot of different subjects. It's very, very easy to walk through life, just kind of oblivious and

1:28.2

not really have a foundational understanding of that subject. And yet, you know, we live in this day

1:34.1

and age of technology at our fingertips. Like literally, you know, I can't tell you how many times

1:39.4

throughout the course of the day. I'm like, huh, I wonder. And then I pull my phone out and Google it,

1:43.2

you know, information is is readily available. So, you know, we really don't have much of an excuse anymore not to, uh, you know, quickly gain an understanding of something that we lack in. Um, it's not like the ye olden days back when I was a kid when, uh, you would have salesmen coming around door to door

2:01.3

selling books like series of encyclopedia. I remember when I was in high school breaking out

2:08.4

the old encyclopedia to try to understand some sort of mathematical equation better.

2:13.4

And, you know, they were useful. They were helpful, sure, but like, you can get way more information

2:17.8

and it takes up way less space on your bookshelf. But they do look cool. You look like a learned

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