It's the Eric anders Lang podcast.

That's pretty close, Waggle.

It's the Eric Henders Lang show.

It's the Eric Henders Laying show.

We're live, by the way.

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Michael Williams, in an elevator, someone says, well, first of all all they're going to see you in an elevator

and they're going to notice that you're a gentleman but what because I would that's what how I would describe you

but how do you describe yourself in your sort of elevator pitch? I think the idea of being a

gentleman is is it is not a bad it's not a bad way to describe someone I

think for me you know what I'm sort of, you know, I'm genuinely curious about the world,

but what I do is I basically I'm into stories and history and tradition and all these sort of things and what makes what goes

into the things that we use or do every day like what we see so my sort of career

and life has been guided a little bit by that where you know I started this website in 2007 called a continuous lien that on a whim became this really popular men's work blog and so I was like one of the first wave of the blogger universe right so I was like a pre-influencer if you will if you are a fan of the show you may have heard and you may have been either looking forward to or learned a lot about

Watches by listening to the Ben Climber podcast a little behind the scenes here Michael, you're to thank for that.

I think you introduced me to Ben a year prior to him and I actually meeting.

And you and I are currently in Mexico.

Yeah, we, you know, we had to come to international waters to do this, which, you know, just, you know, laws, you know, there's a lot of, a lot of restrictions on, you know, you and I getting together in a room and having a conversation, but it's nice that we were able to make it work, you know?

Yeah, the great thing is being down here we can talk about anything so there's really no embargo.

No, but we both live in Los Angeles and and we have a lot of friends in common, Garrett Light, you know, being one of them who I spend a lot of time with because we share his office downtown, the brilliant eyewear optician, if will and then Corey Heen and who's working here at this golf course

coast of Palmas and you know we have there's a lot I feel like you're naturally sort of my world is largely dominated by

menswear and sort of all the things associated with that and they go along with that and then

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