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Insight Hour with Joseph Goldstein

Ep. 152 – The Early Life of Sharon Salzberg & Joseph Goldstein

Insight Hour with Joseph Goldstein

Be Here Now Network

Joseph Goldstein, Mindfulness, Vipassana, Buddhism, Insightmeditation, Meditation, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8864 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Joseph Goldstein and Sharon Salzberg recall their early lives and initial years of mindfulness practice and share what drew them to meditation in the late sixties and early seventies.

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This podcast is being released in tandem with Sharon Salzberg’s Metta Hour Hour Podcast. Sharon is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. She and Joseph are co-founders of The Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA. Sharon is the author of numerous books, including the New York Times bestseller, Real Happiness, and her seminal work, Lovingkindness.

“This lasted for two years, and they were the worst two years of my practice, the most difficult. And it took me that long to realize that it wasn’t about getting something, it was about opening to what was there. But I was so attached to that wonderful experience that it was really subverting the deeper understanding of what meditation really is. So it took me such a long time, but finally, after two years of struggle, something released, let go, and I just settled back and opened to whatever was presenting itself.” – Joseph Goldstein

In this conversation, Joseph shares about:

  • Growing up in the Catskills and his early encounters with death and loss • Studying philosophy at Columbia University and living in New York City during his college years • Joining the Peace Corps and living in Thailand • His first encounters with Buddhist monks and the resonance of finding the spiritual path • The ups and downs of his initial years of practice and finding his teacher, Munindra • Meeting Sharon at her first retreat with S.N. Goenka • The community that emerged out of the Goenka retreats • The parallels of the evolution of his and Sharon’s path

Sharon shares about:

  • The difficulty of her childhood • Her first encounter with Buddhist Philosophy in college and creating a study abroad program to take her to India • Receiving Chögyam Trungpa’s advice on where to learn meditation • Searching for meditation instruction across India as a young woman • The scene at her first retreat led S.N. Goenka • Learning how to navigate her inner life • Meeting Joseph for the first time • Her and Joseph’s different practice needs in their early years • Crafting a spiritual path before there was a model for that life in the West

This episode is part of a continuing series of interviews between Sharon Salzberg & Joseph Goldstein about their lives and contributions to Buddhism. For more like this, subscribe to Sharon's Metta Hour Podcast.

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So death was really a big part of my experience in those years and it was obviously very impactful but I had such a sense of the

0:18.5

phenomenon of life and death somebody is there and then they're not there.

0:23.7

And so that had a big impact on me.

0:26.9

That whole experience became very vivid, you know, in my heart and my mind. Welcome to the Joseph Goldstein Insight Hour.

0:48.0

This podcast is an expression of our shared interest in self-discovery.

0:55.0

Join Joseph as he shares his deep knowledge of the path of mindfulness.

1:00.0

If you are interested in supporting this podcast, please go to be here of you. I'm delighted to have you both here. We've been doing this

1:22.3

podcast for many years now,

1:24.7

but Joseph somehow you have evaded being a guest here.

1:29.5

It's incredible.

1:31.0

Waiting for the right moment. Incredible.

1:35.0

Waiting for the right moment.

1:38.0

With both of you being here together, I thought it would just be nice to take some time to really talk about kind of the source of a lot of your story because so

1:48.4

many of our listeners out there, you know, our students of both of yours and have read your many books and sat in many retreats with you.

1:58.0

And I think there's something really fruitful about looking at the beginning of both of your stories and kind of what drew you into this path and when those paths crossed for the first time and as always just visualizing the fashion of the time.

2:17.0

So Joseph, why don't we start with you? You grew up in the cat skills in New York and yeah, tell us a little bit about what the feel of your childhood was and all of that.

2:35.0

Well, first just to make a distinction between the two sides of the Catskills.

2:41.0

So one side, like on the Woodstock side is the big artistic communities and and also

2:48.8

some spiritual centers Tibetan and Zen centers there. I grew up on the other side of the Catskills, which was the Jewish

2:56.4

resort area called the Borsch Belt. Love it. And my family had a summer resort. so I grew up in the resort.

3:05.0

It was just open in the summer.

3:06.4

It was a lot of cottages.

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