Eurovision is, you know, it's meant to be like an apolitical contest, but it's, that's like a fantasy.

Hello and welcome to The Trawl where we scroll through social media so you don't have to.

I'm Marina Perkis.

And I'm Gemma Forte and this week, Labour have been busy, taken in the Tory rubbish.

Baby reindeer is the moral conundrum that doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

In fact, Ash Scrivens posted this clip with the caption,

When You Come Back to Work after a Week Off.

41,000 emails.

Yeah.

Yeah, you'll know that feeling.

But more on baby reindeer and Pearce Morgan's approach to it in the next episode and indeed that labour business as well.

Because today we're going to be having a chat about

not usual trawl fare perhaps the Eurovision song contest, although actually it is. It is because

I've never known more of a political hot potato than it was this year. It's always a political hot potato, but it really

amped up. So before we get into it, all of it, Marina, are you historically into Eurovision or

not bothered? No. I mean, I used to be when I was a kid, I used to sit in front of it with a

clipboard and rate all of the countries

myself. Just a little, a little bit of fun there for me. Of course, you did, like a little mini

Karen. And then, do you know what happened? So I, so I used to support Italy when I was

quite young. I was very about being Italian, you know, and there were a couple of years

where I would be really anticipating the Italian entry, and there just wasn't one. And I don't

understand why, but the crushing disappointment when you get to the very last performance and be

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