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Hi, this is Jillian and you are listening to Episode 15 Part 2 of the Court Junkie Podcast.

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We left off in the last episode with the conviction of Heather Mack and her boyfriend, Tommy Schaefer, for the murder of Heather's mother, 62-year-old Sheila Von Weiss Mack.

I told you at the end of that episode that this case was far from over.

Even though Heather and Tommy were found guilty, and even though they were both sentenced, Heather to 10 years and Tommy to 18, there's still a lot to cover.

Including some additional damning evidence against them and a third arrest.

In September 2015, that third arrest was made, and it was something that no one had been expecting.

Tommy's cousin, 24-year-old Robert Ryan Justin Bibbs, also known as Just Ryan, was arrested in Chicago.

He was charged with conspiracy to commit the murder of a US citizen on foreign soil.

Prosecutors said that Ryan had plotted with Tommy and Heather on how to kill Sheila so that they could get her money, which, according to prosecutors, they mistakenly believed to be as much as $11 million.

So it turns out authorities in Indonesia weren't the only ones investigating this case. The FBI back in the US was two.

And here's how that went down. About four months prior to Heather and Tommy's trial, in December of 2014, FBI agents interviewed Ryan at his home in Chicago.

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