Well, hello, hello, Aldrin Wider. Well, do you know what? This is just Jenny here. It's

just Jenny. I'm waiting for her to come in. I'm waiting for that Judith, but she's not

going to come in because, oh it's all gone a bit hectic. I'm recording this in

Manchester. I can't hear myself. I've done something stupid with my headphones, but we're

not going into that right now because there's bigger fish to fry. Daisy is in London. She's

still got the kids up. It's trove Tuesday. We're doing this on Tuesday. Judith would normally

be with us, but wouldn't you just know it? They have bought the Cesarean forward back

to tomorrow. It was originally for Wednesday, the second of March, and then it went to

Thursday, the third of March. And we all relaxed. We thought we've got time to do the podcast

and, but obviously things are very much up in the air. And Judith and the family are having

a thing, a classy Nando's takeaway. Night before the Cesarean Nando's takeaway, incidentally

and coincidentally, I am also having a Nando's takeaway here on the 20th floor of my hotel

in Manchester. I'm back in Mank. It's not even raining. Something's gone wrong here, but

I'm back in Manchester, recording the second series that draws off. Having a ball, I have

to say, lovely people, great work, a huge improvement over the days. It's extraordinary.

And if you've ever watched draws off, this second series has got a sort of fresh twist

to it because the contestants, the artists don't have to pose in the nudge themselves. We've

got professional life models, and it makes a very big difference because you know what professional

life models really know what they're doing, and they're really good. But anyway, that's

by the buy. We're living very odd lives at the moment. So I think what we'll do is, well,

just this is me saying I'm really sorry, the podcast isn't going to happen really this

week. It's been a busy week for both of us. I've moved Phoebe out of her flat into

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