Ep 148: Profiling the Menendez Murders with Professor Ann Burgess, Part 3

Crime Analyst

Laura Richards

True Crime

4.9 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Laura interviews living legend Professor Ann Burgess who assessed Erik Menendez and was one of the expert witnesses called by the defense in the 1993 trial. Laura asks Ann about her pioneering work, how she became involved in the Menendez case and what she discovered when she interviewed Erik. Laura and Ann also discuss the timeline and in particular the days leading up to the murders as well as the crime scene behaviour. You will not want to miss this. Listener discretion is advised. Professor Burgess is an internationally recognized pioneer in the assessment and treatment of victims of trauma and abuse, and author of A Killer by Design: Murderers, Mindhunters, and My Quest to Decipher the Criminal Mind, Rape Investigation and Crime Classification. She has received numerous honours and awards for her work and her courtroom testimony has been described as “groundbreaking,” and she has been called a “nursing pathfinder.” Professor Burgess and Lynda Lytle Holmstrom conducted the first study of rape victims and trauma, and that work caught the attention of the FBI which is depicted in the Netflix show Mindhunter (Dr Wendy Carr). It would later inform Laura’s work at New Scotland Yard. #MenendezMurders #MenendezBrothers #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #TrueCrimePodcast #LyleMenendez #ErikMenendez #KittyMenendez #JoseMenendez #CoerciveControl #MaleViolence #Patriarchy Clips https://www.courttv.com/title/114-ca-v-menendez-erik-menendez-defense-closing-arguments-leslie-abramson/ Sources https://www.courttv.com/trials/ca-v-menendez-1993/ https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/schools/cson/faculty-research/faculty-directory/ann-burgess.html Read Dr Ann Burgess’s Latest Book, A Killer By Design https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Design-Murderers-Mindhunters-Decipher/dp/0306924862 Sponsors Go to Microdose.com and use the code CRIMEANALYST to get free shipping and 30% off your first order. Try HelloFresh.com/50crimeanalyst and use code 50crimeanalyst for 50% off plus 15% off the next two months! Kitsch is offering 30% off your entire order at MyKitsch.com/crimeanalyst YouTube, Socials and Website YouTube @crimeanalyst Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999 Twitter @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999 TikTok @crimeanalystpod Website www.crime-analyst.com Crime Analyst Merch https://crime-analyst.myshopify.com/ Leave a Review https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Vity Palatine, thanks so much for joining us tonight and we'll get to a lot of these
0:07.8	stories coming up in just a little bit.
0:09.8	But first, we're going to do a little bit of time travel tonight in the court TV time
0:13.2	machine as we go back to probably the first huge, I mean huge trial here on court TV.
0:22.2	It happened before, oh, Jay Simpson and it was the Menendez brothers trial.
0:27.1	If you don't remember it, maybe you're young or it's just been a while, take a look.
0:32.6	Now, Beverly Hills Police Dispatcher, Christina Nye, received a 911 call at the police station.
0:42.4	On the line was Lyle Menendez, who sounded hysterical, reporting that quote, someone shot
0:49.3	my mom and my dad.
0:51.6	Sergeant Edmunds asked Lyle Menendez if he had any idea as to who would have done this
0:56.3	crime.
0:57.3	Lyle Menendez opined that his father would probably be the reason for the murders.
1:02.3	You didn't have a guilty conscience at that point about having bought these guns and about
1:06.1	having bought the more powerful ammunition knowing that you intended to use it on your
1:11.2	parents and writing with them to this fishing trip.
1:14.2	You had no guilty conscience about that?
1:16.7	Guilty conscience?
1:17.7	Yes.
1:18.7	I thought they were going to kill us on the fishing trip, I wasn't guilty about getting
1:20.6	two shotguns, no.
1:22.2	You knew you wanted to kill your parents, isn't that right?
1:25.0	I wanted to shoot at them, yes.
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