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influential people involved in the outdoors today. Join me as I travel to sit face to face with my guests in their own homes to learn more about

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Land Tawnani is the president and CEO of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers. The organization is a non-profit sportsman's group based in Montana.

In this episode of Ancard, I sit down with land to get a better

understanding of what he and BHA do. We discuss public land, taking action,

handling criticism, and more. I had reached out to one of your team or no they had someone at your team had

reached out to me to set up a podcast and with you and they wanted to do it over

the phone and it physically pained me to say I'm so sorry I don't do it over the phone and it physically pained me to say I'm so sorry I don't do it over the

phone it doesn't work I've done quite a few over the phone and it's just not the

same thing it's not no so I'm so happy that we made this work. Yeah, so why are you here? I am here for the you know the trade show in particular but what I'm really here is to give away the Jim Range Conservation Leadership Award.

And this is something that AFTA started last year.

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