Ep. 1468 Spooner vs. Locke: Can Governments Rest on "Consent"?
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Tom Woods
4.8 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2019
⏱️ 24 minutes
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John Locke tries to rest the legitimacy of government on the consent of the people. But can they really give consent? Locke himself admitted that unanimous consent was impossible, but thought the state could be legitimized anyway. Lysander Spooner thought otherwise: if we as individuals do not consent to an arrangement, it cannot be enforced on us.
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| 1:25.9 | Anyway, today we're talking about Lysander Spooner and John Locke and the subject of consent. |
| 1:45.9 | Because people say, well, the government exists thanks to the consent of the governed. That's where it gets its legitimacy from. And John Locke tried to argue this too. And Lysander Spooner was having none of it. They were of course not contemporaries. Locke was writing in the late 17th century and Lysander Spooner was writing in the 19th century. |
| 1:51.5 | But they were confronted with the same problem of how do we derive the powers of government from popular consent when the people can't really give any consent formally. |
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