All right, well let's get into it then.

We're joined today by Alex Kane, a journalist with Jewish Currents,

The Intercept Vice, and in these times, largely covering Israel and the Israel Palestinian conflict and

and you're you're one of my favorite people to read on these issues you always

put out a lot of work and so I really recommend checking out his website and his Twitter.

But before we get into the fun stuff of the of the Israel-Palestine conflict and Israeli politics,

I wanted to let listeners know where we know each other from, which is the ska scene of northern

Westchester, New York.

Oh my God, I did not know that either.

I'm here too, by the hi it's me Jamie that is adorable

good times can I talk about the band that you were in or do you want to

yeah so Alex was the drummer in the best

ska band probably ever in Northern Westchester. The no-name Charlie's. Oh my God.

So why don't you tell me a little bit about how you went from being a ska drummer to a

a journalist? And do you still like ska? I definitely still like ska. I, although I don't, I don't live, like I don't even know if there are new

scab bands or new scab-plank bands like do today even exists if they're new if they're not

from the late 90s in like early 2000s or late you know kind of mid-2000s I don't

know but I I definitely I haven't been to a Stascho in, oh my God, a long time. But I definitely still

listen to all the bands that I was listening to as a teenager like you know catch-22

in Streetlight Manifesto and Biggie and the kids table and then also like some of the

old school scoff stuff you know know, the toasters and

Lesson Jake and the scottolites.

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