All right, we're joined by Wilford Riley's a college professor, author of the book Hate Crime

Hokes How the Left is selling a fake race war.

But if you've seen the new film, Am I Racists, playing now in theaters, get tickets at am I racist.com.

Then you also know him as one of the only voices of sanity in the movie.

In fact, of the, of the, I guess we'd say expert class, the academics and so on that we talked to,

the only voice of sanity in that group.

And the two of us went head to head in an intellectual bout in that film,

about that I'm sorry to say I probably lost,

I can now admit.

But he's here now, Wilford's great to see you again.

Yeah, great to be on the show, Matt.

So I wanted to talk about a lot of several different things, issues that the movie deals with and that you've dealt with a lot in your career, that your book deals with.

But before we get into any of that, this is sort of a unique opportunity to interview someone else about my own movie which is interesting because

there are things about the scene that we recorded together we filmed

together that I actually don't know from your perspective because I wasn't involved in the kind of

booking side of things. So here's my question. I know that you knew who I was because we had

followed each other on Twitter for probably years before this.

But that's all I know about your perspective on this.

So what was kind of like going through your mind when we were sparring back and forth and I was in my

dumb wig. What was that from your perspective?

I mean I assumed that we were doing a sort of Borat style setup.

I mean, I think we're both off hand pretty funny.

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