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Maggie Garrett is the legislative director for Americans United for Separation of Church and State. She leads the National Coalition for Public Education, which opposes school voucher legislation,

and she's the chair of the Coalition Against Religious Discrimination,

the National Coalition fighting to repeal the Bush faith-based initiative.

With so many church state issues coming to the forefront,

and we're taping this, I should mention,

just after President Trump's inauguration. There's a lot of things I wanted to ask her about.

So Maggie, thank you for joining me.

And I guess my first question to you is,

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