You show me a country with strong confident families and I'll show you a strong

country. Show me a country with strong families. I'll show you a strong

education institution, legal institution, frankly even entertainment, both

the fine arts and more popular culture.

I mean I think that the family is such a core to what it means to be a great and functional country,

culture and civilization Joseph that were honor-bound to take a look at some of the tough chapters as well.

Outstanding is a production of the Washington Stand where you can find news and

commentary from a biblical worldview. Welcome to Outstanding where we have critical conversations about the news of the day and the ideas

that shape us once again.

I'm your host Joseph Backholm inviting you to another exercise in taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.

And part of thinking like a Christian is understanding how ideas work and they really function like seeds. They either wither up and die or they take

group, they grow, and they begin to spread. And sometimes it takes generations for ideas to fully bear fruit, whether that's good fruit or bad fruit, of course depends upon the idea.

My guest today has written a book about how ideas first planted

in the moral and social revolution of the 1960s

are impacting life today.

Tim Gagline is vice President of Government and External Relations and

focus on the family. He is the author of the recently published book

Stumbling Towards Utopia and he joins me now. Tim, good to see you today.

Joseph, it's great to be with you.

I'm looking forward to our conversation.

Likewise, and I love the title,

Stumbling Towards Utopia.

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