Hey everybody this is Hal Herring thanks for being here

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i have got a really special guest today it's Douglas Brinkley

the american historian writer and author. I wanted to introduce him real quick for people who are in the conservation and public lands.

No. Doug is the author of Wilderness Warrior,

Theodore Roosevelt in the Crusade for America,

which is a huge book, pretty much a seminal text for the

process, the history, the characters, the action of how we got the majority of our national forests, grasslands, wildlife

refuges, the public estate of the American people. It's a fantastic book. That was Wilderness Warrior 2010,

Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America.

He followed that up in 2016 with a fantastic history called rightful heritage and it's Franklin

Delano Roosevelt and the land of America.

These are probably the most detailed histories available anywhere of those years and they exist in a continuum with the new book which is called The Silent Spring Revolution.

John F Kennedy, Rachel Carson, Lyndon Johnson,

Richard Nixon, and the Great Environmental

Awakening.

That's an American, one of the things that Brinkley refers to there is the long 60s,

which is the 1960s decade of violence upheaval and progress in America, which included the 1964 Wilderness Act and

which set the ground for the incredible environmental decade,

as they call it of the 1970s,

which Richard Dixon, of course, started.

So Brinkley, just to go back a little bit beyond conservation although I don't

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