I think it was on our second or third day out there.

Overnight, snowed must have been a foot and a half late season spring storm.

And these kids from Albuquerque, some of them had never touched snow before.

And we woke up in the morning, and I quickly found out that most kids didn't have gloves or a winter hat or appropriate clothes to be in those kind of temperatures or that kind of situation. This is the adventure sports podcast brought to you by 180 tack.

Get out there and have some fun.

Episode 144,

careers and outdoor adventure with Paul Dreyer. Hey, before we get started, I wanted to say happy birthday to Kurt.

It was his birthday this past weekend.

And not only was it Kurt's birthday, but it was also the one-year anniversary of the Adventure Sports podcast.

Can you believe it?

One year.

We're on episode 1444 and we've been

having a blast. So I hope you guys have also been having fun. If you have, please do us a favor and

share it with all your friends. We want to build up the biggest following we can for the show

that's possible. Thanks for listening and let's get on with the show.

Welcome back to another episode of the Adventure Sports podcast.

This is Travis.

Today I have Paul Dreyer on the line.

Paul is from Avid for Adventure. Paul was born in South Africa and he moved to the United States as a young child. He's worked in experiential education,

leadership development, and group psychology for the past 20 years. Among many things, Paul is the

director of risk management with Avid for Adventure, as well as a senior instructor

for the Knowles Outdoor Leadership School. So Paul, welcome to the show. Great, great to be here.

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