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Naked Mormonism Podcast

Ep 143 – Kinderhoax Plates

Naked Mormonism Podcast

Bryce Blankenagel

Ldschurch, Christianity, Latterdaysaints, Religion, Ldschurchhistory, Mormons, Religion & Spirituality, Mormonhistory, Bookofmormon, Mormonism, Josephsmith, Mormon

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2019

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, Joseph Smith is a fraud. We discuss two occurrences in Nauvoo which prove that Jo didn’t have access to any knowledge that people of his day did. First is the Greek Psalter incident where a guy proved that Jo had no idea what language was on the parchment. After that is the entirety of the Kinderhook Plates incident, which proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jo unabashedly knew he was a fraud. These incidents, coupled with the Book of Abraham in early 1842, reveal Jo to be the liar he was.

Links:

Henry Caswell “Three Days At Nauvoo” Greek Psalter expose
http://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1840s/1842Cas1.htm

Greek Psalter MormonThink article
http://www.mormonthink.com/greekweb.htm

Henry Caswell: Anti-Mormon Extraordinaire
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=3085&context=byusq

Hugh Nibley The Myth Makers (1961)
https://archive.org/details/mythmakers00nibl/page/190

May 30, 1843 New York Herald signed “A Gentile”
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030313/1843-05-30/ed-1/seq-2/

Kinderhook Plates FAIRMormon article
https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Forgeries_related_to_Mormonism/Joseph_Smith_and_the_Kinderhook_Plates

Kinderhook Plates MormonThink Article
http://www.mormonthink.com/kinderhookweb.htm#significantref3

Improvement Era Aug 1961
https://archive.org/stream/improvementera6509unse#page/n61/mode/2up

1981 Kinderhook Plate LDS.org article
https://www.lds.org/study/ensign/1981/08/kinderhook-plates-brought-to-joseph-smith-appear-to-be-a-nineteenth-century-hoax?lang=eng

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I am Ryan McKnight.

0:02.1

I'm Kara Santa Maria.

0:03.7

I am Christopher Smith.

0:05.2

Hi, I'm Andrew Torres.

0:06.7

This is Naked Mormonism.

0:09.8

The Serial Mormon History Podcast. Haters gonna hate.

0:24.3

People often say that as, like, an absolute defense against criticism, regardless of

0:30.4

whether or not the criticism is founded, you know, there is some criticism that's, you know,

0:36.3

it's not worth engaging.

0:37.6

Hecklers, trolls, you know, people who are just trying to make your life harder for the sake of dragging somebody into a, you know, a similar place of misery that those people are experiencing.

0:46.6

Yeah, sure, those cases, haters are going to hate.

0:49.6

However, there are legitimate criticisms that people in the public eye will have lobbed at them

0:54.8

that are quickly dismissed with that throwaway when they should be heated or listened to.

1:00.7

You know, if you're a dick and you refuse to accept that fact, and then when people call you

1:04.7

out on being a total dick and you ignore their criticisms by just saying haters going to hate,

1:10.0

you loop those people with legitimate criticisms in with people who are just being annoying, and suddenly the baby and the bathwater are out the window.

1:18.0

Even though criticisms can be couched in a detrimental or a destructive fashion, if there's a nugget of truth at the foundation of a criticism, it should be considered.

1:27.1

A person in the public eye will always

1:28.9

draw critics, but critics are the people who point out when something is awry. For example,

1:34.5

if not for critical scholarship, Joe's 1842 account of the first vision would be the agreed upon

1:40.8

historical truth. Through critical scholarship, you know, criticism, as many as seven previous accounts before

1:48.3

that 1842 version have surfaced revealing many inconsistencies among those different narratives.

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