Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast about how to make your life happier, healthier,

more productive and more creative.

This week we'll talk about why you should say down with boredom and we'll talk to Jansi

done about her new book, How Not to Hate Your Husband After Kids.

And bonus will also have Jansi's husband, writer Tom Vanderbilt, with us to add his perspective.

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose studies happiness, good habits in human nature.

I'm in New York City and with me is my sister Elizabeth Kraft and Elizabeth, I am so excited

about this new segment that we're going to introduce.

That's me, Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA and yes, Gretchen, we have

a new segment before and after stories.

This was suggested by our listener Laura, she said, I have noticed so many small changes

in my own life and I love feeling savvy and systematic about applying your various tips.

I love love love hearing about other people geeking out along with me and trying out all

these different approaches to improving our own lives.

I'm sure you hear from people whose lives have been changed all the time.

Well I've noticed you often sprinkle these stories throughout, have you ever thought

about regularly highlighting listener transformations?

All law before and after makeover stories.

I find these real life examples to be incredibly moving and powerful.

For example, I weld up a little in my car listening to the woman who gave up sugar after

the cancer connection lightning bolt.

I'm also a few weeks into the journey myself.

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