The Tom Woods Show, episode 1416.

Prepare to set fire to the index card of allowable opinion.

Your daily dose of liberty education starts here, the Tom Woods Show.

Folks, the great and heroic Bob Murphy has a brand new bookout, Contra Krugman,

smashing the errors of America's most famous Keynesian.

This thing is going to give you a ton of intellectual ammunition. Plus, throw Bob a Bone here.

I mean, before I crush him in the debate we're doing aboard the ContraCruz, at least let him get a book sale or two.

Check it out at Contra Krugmanbook.com. And I am the narrator of the audiobook version. How about that? You can get that for

free through the audible offer at Tom Woods Audio.com. At any rate, get all the details at contra

Krugmanbook.com. Hi, everybody. Tom Woods here. John Bush is with me today. John has many, many activist credentials under his belt by this time.

I have known him for quite a while, not exactly sure how long, but he's always up to something interesting.

And these days, in terms of his business, he's been involved with Cratum, and he's very much of an advocate for it.

And we're going to talk about that, about what it is, what it does, what the government's

attitude toward it is, what it's like selling it, and some of the challenges that you run into,

the legal status, all this sort of stuff, because it's getting more and more attention.

And John is one of the people for sure to talk to about it.

It's going to be a very interesting conversation.

John, welcome to the show.

Hey, Tom.

Thanks for having me.

As I was preparing for today, I was thinking back to when I met you, and I feel like it would

have to have been at least like maybe 2008, something like that,

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