This is an IHeart podcast.

Steve Rinella here.

The American West with Dan Flores is a new podcast production on the Meat Eater Podcast Network.

It's hosted by author and historian Dan Flores, who happens to be mine and our own Dr.

Randall's former professor.

By focusing on deep time, wild animals, native peoples in the West's unique environments,

Flores will challenge your understanding of the American West,

and he will help to explain why it is the way it is today.

I count Dan Flores as a friend.

We do not agree on everything, but he has had a massive impact on my understanding of American

history.

And I invite you to get challenged by him in the same way that I have.

Catch the premiere of the American West with Dan Flores on Tuesday, May 6th on the Meat Eater podcast network.

Subscribe to the American West with Dan Flores on Apple, Spotify, IHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Listen to Dan, and it will stretch your brain all out.

And I mean that in a very good way. Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance podcast this week.

Jason Phelps and I are going to have a little debate on whose dad is toughest.

Or, you know, when you're a kid in around the playground you're like well my dad's

tougher than your dad and in the spirit of father's day i thought that'd be a good good little

podcast to talk about what do you think yeah yeah i'm i was trying to like you gave me five minutes

and now i'm trying to like stack the deck in my dad's favor so i've been trying to think of things that would make him tough well Phelps I as a as a son you

know your whole life you've been telling people your dad's tougher you know than their dad and then

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