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Mama Mystery with Kelly Evans

Ep 138 : Kathleen Folbigg: A Mother’s Tragedy or a Miscarriage of Justice?

Mama Mystery with Kelly Evans

Kelly Evans

True Crime, Society & Culture, Comedy

4.6996 Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Kathleen Folbigg’s life has been marked by unimaginable loss and relentless controversy. Between 1989 and 1999, she lost all four of her children—Caleb, Patrick, Sarah, and Laura—each death attributed to sudden, unexplained causes. But in 2003, Kathleen was convicted of killing them, largely based on circumstantial evidence, including diary entries that prosecutors claimed were admissions of guilt. Her case, however, has been shrouded in doubt, as new genetic evidence emerged suggesting her children may have died due to rare mutations linked to cardiac and epileptic conditions. In this episode of Mama Mystery, we explore Kathleen’s early life, the tragic deaths of her children, and the investigation that led to her conviction. We’ll also discuss the groundbreaking scientific evidence that led to her 2023 pardon after two decades in prison. Was Kathleen a grieving mother wrongfully accused, or is there more to this case than meets the eye? Join us as we unravel one of Australia’s most controversial legal battles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Our Sponsors: * Check out Essilor® Stellest® Lenses: https://www.essilor.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Mama Mystery. I am your host, Kelly, and today is going to be a solo episode because we are exhausted.

0:19.2

It has been such a long week. And I guess I'm going to just go ahead.

0:23.7

I didn't even plan on talking about this, but I'm just going to go ahead and talk about it

0:27.2

because maybe it'll put things into a different perspective for our listeners. But we have just

0:33.4

been like dealing with a lot of death around us lately. So not in regards to true crime.

0:40.3

It's actually in regards to our personal lives. So Austin's best friend lost his mom to cancer

0:46.7

last week. And she was actually an avid listener of Mama Mystery, which just breaks my heart.

0:53.2

I lost my mom when she was 56, and our friend's mom was

0:57.2

56 also. And, you know, I just, my heart just breaks for him and his family, and they're all

1:03.7

struggling with this. So that happened last week. And then this week, Austin's grandma passed away.

1:10.4

At the age of 93, She had a very long and

1:13.7

fulfilling life. Her name is Joyce. I'm glad I got to spend some time with her, you know,

1:20.4

in the beginning of our relationship. And then also towards the end, we got to be with her and hold

1:23.9

her hand. And, you know, it was just very eye-opening. And then Austin's business

1:29.8

partner lost his mom this week also. It's just been a lot of moms leaving us this week. And it's

1:37.3

been really hard, you know, to carry all that weight and the pain that we're feeling for our friends.

1:43.4

We, Austin and I both are fixers.

1:45.9

We want to fix things for people and these are just things we can't fix. And so we're trying

1:51.1

really hard to just kind of be there for them and be present. But I just want to dedicate

1:56.3

this episode to them. Oddly enough, I didn't intend on doing this because today's episode is actually

2:04.2

about a mom, but not in a good way. So I don't know. I don't know, guys, where like how we can

2:10.8

connect these two in a positive way. But I do want to dedicate this episode to the good moms,

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