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The Deconstructionists

Ep. 138 - Dr. Thomas Jay Oord ”Pluriform Love”

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4823 Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Guest Bio: Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author, and he has written or edited more than twenty books. Oord has won the Outstanding Faculty Award twelve times as professor of Northwest Nazarene University, Nampa, Idaho. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, relational theology, science and religion, and Wesleyan/Holiness/Church of the Nazarene thought.(Select) Guest Publications: The Nature of Love: A Theology; The Uncontrolling Love of God: An Open and Relational Account of Providence; God Can't: How to Believe in God and Love After Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils; and God Can't Q&A. Pluriform Love: An Open and Relational Theology of Well-Being.Guest Links:www.thomasjayoord.comTwitter: @thomasjayoordTheme music by Forrest Clay. Check out the Recover EP anywhere good music is sold.Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab a tee shirt, snag a pint glass or mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family.The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson.Website by Ryan BattlesAll Photos by Jared HevronLogos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen PfluigT-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason TurnerSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

By open and relational, I mean, I think God is in a real giving and receiving relationship with us and all creation.

0:08.9

God not only influences us, but God is influenced by us.

0:14.4

And love, I think, is inherently relational.

0:17.2

So it makes sense to say a loving God would be giving and receiving because love gives and receives.

0:23.2

The openness part refers to God moving into an open future.

0:29.4

This God neither predestined nor even forenows with certainty everything that's going to happen in the future

0:35.9

and gives and receives moment by

0:39.4

moment in a loving relationship. It's hard to imagine a God who is timeless having any kind of

0:47.6

momentary giving and receiving love relationships. But in open theology, we don't think God

0:53.4

is timeless. We think God

0:55.3

everlastingly moves through time moment by moment in relation to creation. And that

1:01.8

philosophical framework, you might say, not only makes a lot more sense of what love looks

1:08.5

like, but also, at least according to us in the open and relational

1:12.6

camp, far better fits the God of Scripture, the God described as engaging in those kinds of love

1:19.7

relationships. Now I am not sure what I believe.

1:28.3

Do you believe in hope because I am hopeless?

1:35.3

Do you believe in love because I'm alone?

1:41.3

Do you believe in help?

1:44.4

Because I am helpless.

1:48.8

Welcome to The Deconstructionist podcast.

1:51.3

I'm your host, John Williamson, and I got another returning guest this week.

1:56.2

Very excited to talk about his latest book.

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