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Michael Covel's Trend Following

Ep. 1371: The Performance Perspective with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

Michael Covel

Business, Investing

4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

Please enjoy my monologue The Performance Perspective with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

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Twitter: @covel
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Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!

Transcript

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0:00.0

My last episode for 2025 comes with a certain motivation, a certain inspiration, a certain

0:08.6

reminder that it's all in your head.

0:12.1

It's the six inches between your ears.

0:15.7

And with that in mind, two guests from my archives that will put you in the spirit of being ready to kick

0:24.7

some ass in 2026. I love all my guests.

0:51.5

But it's one of those ones where it's something from perhaps my youth

0:55.2

that I was always curious about. And I never expected to have a conversation with Michael

1:01.4

Jordan's personal trainer. In fact, my guest today, his very first pro athlete client as a trainer

1:09.4

was one Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player who has

1:14.4

ever played. And I got to tell you, Tim has some fantastic lessons about life. Even how he made

1:22.9

his way to be at Michael Jordan's doorstep, that very first meeting. Wow, a little bit of luck,

1:32.2

but also a lot of taking a chance, putting himself out there. And that's just how he got to Jordan.

1:41.0

But those lessons he learned along the way, those winning lessons, he is here today

1:46.8

to share a little with all of us. Without any further delay, let's jump right into my conversation

1:52.8

today with Tim Grover. You've got about, I think looking at ages, you've got about four years on me. So I want to take you back in time. I'm going to go a little fishing here in the beginning. I want to take you back at time to 1982.

2:24.0

At that point in time, I was living 15 miles in Washington, D.C. I was living 15 miles in Washington, D.C. I'm going to go a little fishing here in the beginning. I want to take you back at time to 1982. At that point in time, I was living 15 miles in Washington, D.C. I was a rabid Georgetown fan.

2:31.4

My father went to Georgetown, and I sure as heck did not want that team in baby blue to win down at UNC. I loved watching that guy named Michael Jordan, but I did not want that team to win.

2:37.8

When I think back to the physical shape,

2:41.0

and I can still remember, you know,

2:42.5

look, he was a young guy,

2:43.3

he was a freshman in college,

2:44.8

but the Michael Jordan as a freshman in college

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