Ep 1369 | The Hard Truth I Needed to Hear from Someone I Trusted

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Christianity

4.9 • 24.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Al, Zach, Christian, and John Luke wrap up Ancient Christianity with stories about sermon critiques, mispronounced words, and the kind of mentorship that only works when trust has been earned. Al shares how a gift from his granddaughter brought Phil’s larger-than-life legacy to mind, while John Luke explains how he turned the Roman Empire into a summer camp lesson about Jesus, persecution, and the kingdom of God. The guys dig into Augustine’s impact on the Trinity, the incarnation of Christ, and why God must reveal himself before we can truly know him. In this episode: John 1:1; Genesis 1:28; John 17:3; John 14:6; Ephesians 3:10; Luke 15; Psalm 48:1-8; 1 John 4:8-10; Romans 1-2; Romans 7:24-25 Today’s conversation is a recap of Ancient Christianity taught by visiting Hillsdale Professor of History Kenneth Calvert. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/. More about Ancient Christianity: Christ entered the world during the reign of Caesar Augustus. The tensions between Christianity and the Roman Empire shaped the daily practice of the Christian faith and led many Romans to distrust and persecute the early Christians. But Christianity also benefitted from the Roman world. And when Rome collapsed in the West, Christianity provided the hope for preserving civilization. In this free, eleven-lecture course, Professor Kenneth Calvert will explore: How the Jewish, Greek, and Roman cultures all contributed to preparing the world to hear the Gospel. Why many Romans distrusted and persecuted the early Christians. The inspiring stories of Christ, His apostles, and faithful ones throughout the first four centuries of Christianity. The arguments of key early Christian apologists—Ignatius, Irenaeus, Justin, Athanasius, and more—who defended and defined the Christian faith amidst the animosity of the Roman world. The conversion of Constantine and how he brought stability to Rome, and how the rivalry between his sons almost returned Rome to paganism. How Augustine’s writings helped preserve the message of Christianity during the collapse of the Roman Empire in the West. You will discover the uncertainties, trials, and triumphs of the earliest Christians as they confronted controversies within the faith and persecutions from outside it. Join us today to discover the improbable and miraculous story of Christianity. Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Chapters 00:00 Pap’s Shuttle Service 04:38 Getting Called Out for Mispronunciation 10:11 Learning to Land the Plane 16:28 John Luke Brings the Roman Empire to Camp 20:48 Knowing the God We Can’t Fully Grasp 26:53 Why the Incarnation Reveals Who God Is 30:20 Who Was Jesus in the Old Testament? 36:35 The City of God Still Reigns 43:02 Augustine’s Wounds & the Power of Surrender — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashamed for Hillsdale. We've been loving this
0:11.6	study. And you mentioned in the last podcast, Zach, that David Nassar was on the podcast. We
0:18.8	recorded it yesterday. But this, he's been listening to this one. And I didn't realize he was your old boss at Liberty until he brought it up on the podcast. I forgot this where I met him. But he's been, he's been loving it. He said the Roman, the Roman podcast is what he called it. Yeah. But he's talking about ancient Christianity, which I thought was really neat. So we're glad you guys are joining us as well. We've been talking about John Luke. We talked in the last podcast about his summer. So this is my summer. If you can see this, if you're watching it, my daughter made this for me yesterday. It's Papp's shuttle service. I'm Papp to my grandkids. And I guess this is AI generated, but it's a skinny
0:58.1	picture of me holding a salad because that brought up my weight loss in the last podcast. And my
1:05.0	truck, which goes back and forth to Gulf Shores weekly now, because I come back to do podcasts, but also to ferry different
1:13.8	grandchildren because some are going to Camps Yoko this summer, some are going to horse camp,
1:19.1	you know, so they all, some are basketball camps. So they all have their camps, but they love
1:23.7	their Mam and Pap time at the beach. So that's kind of become my existence.
1:29.2	So I spent a lot of time in Mississippi getting down there to where you are,
1:34.2	a Christian down on the coast.
1:35.9	And I wanted to share that because you want to be good to your grandkids
1:40.0	because you realize in that second run at things,
1:46.0	when you're older, you appreciate life. You know, when you're older, you appreciate life. Or, you know, when you're young, like John Luke and Christian, you're trying to get them raised.
1:50.1	I mean, you love them, but at the same time, you're trying to make sure they survive their childhood, right?
1:55.1	And everything that goes on, especially for snake handlers like Luke.
1:59.4	And so, but your grandkids is changes.
2:04.0	And Zach's kind of doing this because he adopted his child,
2:07.8	but he's almost in grandparent age because he also has married kids now.
2:11.6	And so you realize something unique about that.
2:14.1	Jay's talks about it all the time.
2:15.2	He's going through this renaissance because of
2:18.1	their little, the little man he calls him. And because all of a sudden, he just recognizes things
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