Jeff, thanks so much for joining me.

Oh, it's my pleasure. Absolutely my pleasure.

Yeah, so if you could just take a second to tell everyone who may not be aware of who you are,

what you do, where you come from.

Well, I'm the pastor at Apology of Church, a pastor at Apology of Church.

And our church came out of a drug and alcohol rehab hospital.

I was the full-time chaplain there for four years at a hospital,

I was also pastoring somewhere else.

And so many people were coming out of addiction to drugs and alcohol and coming to Christ at that facility

that became very, very clear that we needed to care for them.

And people were coming from all over the country, actually, to this hospital.

And so God was doing something really amazing there.

And so we took a huge risk and we planted Apology of Church at the hospital.

And that was about 10 years ago.

And so that's where our church began.

As a church, we are involved in a lot of outreach in different areas and different communities,

public debate with atheists, to different outreach to different kind of cultic movements.

We also have a very significant ministry and outreach in the area of abortion.

And so we started end abortion now.

It's just really a banner over a Christian approach, a very vocal gospel-centered Christian approach in the area of abortion.

We started that couple years ago.

We now have over 400 churches globally who are under that banner and going out and saving children at the actual abortion clinics, offering help and love and assistance to mothers and fathers who are bringing their children there.

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