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I've been here a while, Zach. So we did, because we did a Hillsdale yesterday as well.

But we were talking about before we came on, me trying to get Zach to tell us,

yesterday, on the last time we recorded a couple days ago, about his trip.

And the first, it was kind of like a really, it was like a batter, because I'm a decent

interviewer.

But so I actually was interviewing Zach. The pitch, it was too good. It's like the pitch

was so, you like put it on. Zach so used to be put down. I thought the fact that one of these

parties, Al, what you're better than men, Zach, but that you're asking one of your cohorts a

question? Yeah. I thought, well, this is... Because we're... Jay's telling stories.

I'm telling stories because we hadn't been here altogether in a while. So then I pitched a Zach and it's just like crickets. It was like... I wouldn't prepare it for it. And the way you phrased the question, so then we, before the podcast and the pre-podcast, at some point in the future, If we, whatever footage we got, I'm going to release the pre-podcast.

We can only do that when we're some sailing on. and the pre-podcast. At some point in the future, whatever footage we got,

I'm going to release the pre-podcast.

We can only do that when we're sailing off into the sunset

because that would probably be our undoing.

Well, then you just, yeah,

you tell all these hilarious stories

that weren't aired about your wife

deconstructing this fancy hotel.

Well,

we're talking about our vehicles, because another thing about getting older and being creatures of your own habits and culture, you like things the way you like them. And your truck is one of those things. It's like your little, it's a small kingdom for you. Yeah, because I sat down in this chair and what was the first thing I did. Yeah, you were like, something's not right. Somebody's messing with my chair. He's messing with my chair. I was like, Christian. We had a podcast without you and he sat in your chair. But I'm like, that's like somebody getting in your vehicle after you've cultivated the perfect position over years.

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