Ep 1351 | Jase Helps Zach’s Son Find the Courage to Speak Boldly about Jesus

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Christianity

4.9 • 24.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Zach returns from Italy with a sobering reminder from Rome’s ruins that every earthly kingdom eventually falls, but the kingdom of God keeps moving forward. Jase, Al, and Zach dig into how trials expose what comfort hides, and what it means to have a double-minded soul. Jase helps Zach’s son, Bear, through a panicky faith moment, and it ends up being an awesome reminder of the courage young Christians need in today’s world. In this episode: James 1, verses 1–8; James 2; Acts 15; Galatians 2; Hebrews 12; Matthew 5, verses 21–22; Matthew 23, verse 17; Ephesians 2, verses 8–10; Genesis 2, verse 15; Hebrews 5, verse 14 “Unashamed” Episode 1351 is sponsored by: https://zocdoc.com/UNASHAMED — Check out Zocdoc and stop putting off those doctors appointments. Go to ZocDoc to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. https://ponchooutdoors.com/unashamed — Get $10 off your first order and free shipping! https://www.quo.com/unashamed— Get 20% OFF your first six months http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Chapters 00:00 Jase & Al Admit They Need Zach 07:05 The Faith-and-Works Debate 13:45 Faith, Family & Freedom 2026 19:33 Little Man’s Deep Thoughts 25:10 Zach’s Italy Trip 32:05 Why James and Paul Weren’t at Odds 38:11 The Wisdom Behind the Law 42:24 Double-Minded Faith 47:33 Work Was Never the Curse 51:15 The Difficulties of Counting Trials as Joy — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I am unashamed. What about you?
0:06.2	Welcome back to Unashamed or is the, what was the old bit that was on he-hawn, gloom, despair, and agony on me?
0:15.1	Well, where? Is that it? That's it.
0:17.3	You tonight. Why did you leave me here all along? That's it. I searched the world. I'm taking it back now. You have to have more passion with it. Were you tonight? Why did you leave me here all along? That's it. I remember that. I'm taking it back now. You have to have more passion with that out. I searched the world over and thought I found too. It was just the poor blues. That's what I felt like today. Jason and I have come in. We have done nothing but complained since we got here this morning Maddie's tried to be a bright light
0:38.5	We have a friend here John from San Angelo
0:41.5	Texas watching today
0:43.0	Zach you're back though
0:44.2	And for that
0:45.7	Jason and I are eternally grateful
0:47.4	We did four podcasts without you
0:49.4	And it was we felt like it was a struggle
0:51.5	That was
0:52.6	Go ahead
0:53.6	I'm not going to interrupt you one time today Because we need We felt like it was a struggle. That was great. Go ahead.
0:58.9	I'm not going to interrupt you one time today because we need you, Zay.
1:03.9	Well, I get on and you're like just talking about how rough it was without me.
1:08.0	I mean, it was a lot of complaining, but I heard it as, Zach, I love you.
1:10.4	And that's why I responded with, Jace, I love you too.
1:12.5	Well, we're habitual creatures.
1:21.9	And what I learned is that when you're a leg down, you have a three-legged stool, you have a two-legged.
1:29.4	But the two, you're asking more from the two when you don't have three legs. And the problem is that you, Norzac, are very good at listening to other people.
1:36.3	You're thinking about what you're about to present.
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