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Michael Covel's Trend Following

Ep. 1351: Henrietta Moore and Arthur Kay with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

Michael Covel

Investing, Business

4.6730 Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

My guests today are Henrietta Moore and Arthur Kay.

Henrietta Moore is the Founder and Director of the Institute for Global Prosperity and the Chair in Culture Philosophy and Design at University College London. Her work is focused on new economic models, Universal Basic Services, artificial intelligence, environmental degradation, decarbonization, displaced people, and the gender pay gap.

Arthur Kay is an entrepreneur, urban designer, and advisor building solutions for sustainable cities. He is a Director at Innovo, and the Founder of Skyroom, The Key Worker Homes Fund, and Bio-bean. Kay is a Board Member of Transport for London (TfL), the Museum of the Home, and Fast Forward 2030.

The topic is their book Roadkill: Unveiling the True Cost of Our Toxic Relationship with Cars.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Social and environmental impact of cars
  • Urban design and car-centric infrastructure
  • Alternatives to car ownership
  • Public transport safety and social issues
  • Cultural attitudes toward community and individualism

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Transcript

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0:00.0

My guests today are Henrietta Moore and Arthur Kay.

0:03.7

Today we discuss their new book, Roadkill, unveiling the true cost of our toxic relationship with cars.

0:11.8

I'm sure that title caused some people to say yes and some people to say no.

0:19.3

I try my best on this topic today.

0:21.7

It's tough.

0:22.9

I try to be realistic.

0:25.1

Where are we?

0:26.5

What can we really do?

0:28.3

Because the reality is,

0:30.4

the car is the most successful product ever.

0:34.8

I hope you enjoy this conversation.

0:50.6

Music ever. I hope you enjoy this conversation. I've been doing a podcast for a long time, and I've seen a lot of different books, talk to a lot of

0:55.6

different people, especially in the nonfiction, I don't know if I'd call this a business book,

1:00.6

but perhaps in that kind of nonfiction space. Often the titles don't tell you much, but this is an

1:06.0

interesting title that you have both written, Roadkill, unveiling the true cost of our toxic relationship

1:11.5

with cars. I'm sure all parts of the audience have immediately drawn a conclusion. They've

1:16.8

immediately taken a side or they think something. Clearly, that's what you guys were going with

1:22.1

your title. Henrietta, let me let you start with the big picture on why. This is an interesting topic. Why?

1:30.9

What's so interesting about cars is that they're a big part of our shared life together and they have a big

1:36.0

impact on that shared life. What we realized is that they also reveal how difficult it is we're

1:42.5

actually finding it to live that shared life together at this time.

1:46.6

So the book's really about thinking through some of the big problems of today,

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