Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast where we discuss cutting edge science, the wisdom

of the ages, lessons from pop culture and our own experiences about how to be happier.

This week we'll talk about the 2.0 version of our tried-is at home of planning a virtual

move and why having a solution to even a very small problem can give you a real happiness

please.

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose studies happiness good habits, human nature and the

four tendencies.

I'm in New York City and with me is my sister Elizabeth Kraft.

I recently got to see the renovation of her house which we have discussed so often.

That's me Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA and yeah Gretchen was great

to have you in LA.

And we got to see our hot tub.

But you also saw of course the mess that we still have going on in the house.

So it's a work in progress.

So Elizabeth, episode 132 we talked about how if you are feeling overwhelmed by the news

or overwhelmed by events in your own life, one thing that you could do is to turn to children's

literature because this is a way that you can read towering masterpieces of world literature

but maybe in a way that feels more accessible to you at a time when you're feeling overwhelmed.

Yes, and Gretchen we got an email from someone who specifically mentioned an author who

we both know and love and brochures.

Yay.

You know I've known Anne since like 1993 when I had my first job out of college at a place

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