I want you to imagine turning on the radio in 2020 and hearing this next segment because I don't think we could do it without getting sued.

The game is called Jail or no Jail, where we try to assume and people have been to jail just by the way they look.

It was a moment in 2009 I want you to hear it and see it makes you cringe today on the show.

Hi, hi my name's Kramer and I am proud to admit that I am a mama's boy.

You're not just any mama's boy, you're a certified mama's boy.

And this is the certified mama's boy and this is the certified mama's boy

podcast. The certified mama's boy podcast I'm Steve Kramer this is a feel good

podcast I do with my mom every single day.

She is a saint and you're going to see why here in just a couple seconds when I introduce you.

But the podcast has three basic principles.

It's live, laugh, love your mom.

We're going to live our live and share them. We're going to laugh a lot and we're going to love my mom, my co-host, Nancy Nancy.

Hi mom.

Hi, honey.

Today we're actually going to start with Dram. Maggie. We got Dr. Maggie on my

my dramatic sister and only sister, but my also, my most dramatic sister. And that's why I call her

Dr Maggie. Maggie, you've... What happened? You felt like you lived in a cockroach infested house now what is it what's the drama now?

Well it's actually John's house it's not my house. Okay, okay. And he said to make sure that people don't think that he lives in this really gross, nasty place.

But, I mean, the winter there's rodents and now the summer there's just insects and so I'm like okay I guess this is just if I can't be here.

Maggie in all fairness this is an older house right yeah older house lots of cracks and creeks and

also you have to keep in mind her name is dramaggy for a reason so there's

I want her version of the story.

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