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Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1349 | Ancient Rome’s Collapse Sounds Too Much Like America’s Future

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Tread Lively

Religion, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.924.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Rome’s decline sounds uncomfortably familiar as Al, Zach, John Luke, and Christian compare the empire’s political chaos, devalued currency, and hunger for centralized power to warning signs in America today. The guys discuss why Christianity has always threatened governments that want ultimate control, since believers answer to God before the state. Al connects Diocletian’s leadership reforms to the biblical wisdom Jethro gave Moses, and they wrestle with the difficult duty to pray for leaders even when Christians strongly disagree with them. Need a refresher on Ancient Christianity? Check out the previous episode on this topic at https://youtu.be/vP3u0pQP74c?si=cnpxf7EFOI2nMmnQ Today’s conversation is about Lesson 8 of Ancient Christianity taught by visiting Hillsdale Professor of History Kenneth Calvert. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/. More about Ancient Christianity: Christ entered the world during the reign of Caesar Augustus. The tensions between Christianity and the Roman Empire shaped the daily practice of the Christian faith and led many Romans to distrust and persecute the early Christians. But Christianity also benefitted from the Roman world. And when Rome collapsed in the West, Christianity provided the hope for preserving civilization. In this free, eleven-lecture course, Professor Kenneth Calvert will explore: How the Jewish, Greek, and Roman cultures all contributed to preparing the world to hear the Gospel. Why many Romans distrusted and persecuted the early Christians. The inspiring stories of Christ, His apostles, and faithful ones throughout the first four centuries of Christianity. The arguments of key early Christian apologists—Ignatius, Irenaeus, Justin, Athanasius, and more—who defended and defined the Christian faith amidst the animosity of the Roman world. The conversion of Constantine and how he brought stability to Rome, and how the rivalry between his sons almost returned Rome to paganism. How Augustine’s writings helped preserve the message of Christianity during the collapse of the Roman Empire in the West. You will discover the uncertainties, trials, and triumphs of the earliest Christians as they confronted controversies within the faith and persecutions from outside it. Join us today to discover the improbable and miraculous story of Christianity. Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters 00:00 Al’s Awkward Haircut Dilemma 05:30 Old-School Barbers & “Bughead” Trauma 11:04 Rome’s Money Problems Sound Familiar 16:01 Why Rome Saw Christianity as a Threat 19:08 Freedom Without God Starts to Devour Itself 24:28 The Wisdom of Shared Power 30:03 Galerius Brings Peace, Heresy Follows 36:18 Wrapping Your Brain Around the Trinity 40:16 The Church’s Role in the Secular World — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I am unashamed. What about you?

0:06.4

Welcome back to the Unashamed for Hillsdale podcast. We do this every Friday. We're taking courses with Hillsdale. These have been amazing. And they're free to take, by the way. You guys want to encourage you to take the course with us and then listen to our kind of discussion around the course. You can sign up for free at Unashamed for Hillsdale.com. We've been on a six-week journey through Colonial America, which, guys, was that not absolutely amazing or what? I love it. Insane. Yeah. It definitely brought out some of the best stuff that I hadn't thought about. It was high key. Oh cap. It was really good. It was good. No cap. Low key. So we're back and we're back into our ancient Christianity course, which we took that six week break on. And here's what we're going to do. We're still doing the contest. We're going to pick one listener to come down to Westman Road to watch a live recording of Mundashamed with us. We're going to pay for travel and lodging for you and the

0:58.5

guest up to $1,000 each. All you got to do is take the ancient Christianity course with us.

1:04.1

Finish all the quizzes. Finish all the quizzes. Send us your certificate of completion.

1:08.9

You can send that and upload it at watchunashame.com.

1:11.9

And then you guys will be entered in for the drawing and we'll pick a winner in June.

1:15.9

So hopefully you guys will do that and love to see you in person.

1:20.3

And here we are back in our lecture eight.

1:25.2

I don't know.

1:26.0

What have you guys been traveling?

1:27.4

What's been going on in

1:28.6

your worlds i was going to ask you guys something so i had so i've had my uh the woman who

1:34.3

cuts my hair has cut my hair for 35 years wow i have followed her through so many different

1:41.8

professions and she's cut on the side. And I mean, she's like,

1:45.6

you know, we're bonded. And so, but she recently, about six weeks ago, she lost her son,

1:53.1

unfortunately, 49 years old had a heart attack. And so she's been out of commission. And so I was

2:00.3

going to ask God about that because I don't know who cuts your hair, but like you build a relationship with these people. And then it's hard to like, so like I've been encouraging her and talking to her about, you know, grief and all that kind of stuff. But I haven't wanted to ask her, you know, when are you going back to work? Because I need a serious haircut.

2:19.1

My hair was out of control.

2:20.8

I mean, now that I've gotten older, there's more gray.

2:23.4

And so the longer it gets, it just turns into this big poof of a kind of like Willys.

2:28.6

If you didn't have the bandana.

2:30.3

Because it's just gotten curlier as I've gotten older.

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