Hi and welcome to the Josh Marshall podcast this is David Tainter. Josh Marshall

is out today so we are filling in I've got Kate Riga here as always. Hey

David. And joining us is investigative reporter Josh Kavenski. Josh,

thank you for being our token Josh today on the podcast.

It's good to be a Josh or not be Josh, so that's it.

Absolutely.

All right, well we have a lot of news to get to today.

Obviously a lot of us have been up late

and up late night, and up the TPM virtual newsroom,

but a bunch of other news has broken over the last week

since we had our weekly episode and I guess the biggest story in the

TPM world right now is the downfall of Jerry Falwell Jr. the now former

president of Liberty University one of the top evangelical leaders in the country

basically a really influential person who has been at the helm of the university for a number of years,

Kate or Josh, do you know how long long has he, has his tenure been there?

That's a great question.

I want to say since the 2000s, I mean,

he, the interesting thing in Falwell

is that his dad founded Liberty University.

The university was in arrears when Jerry Falwell Jr took over.

But as far as I know, he didn't immediately take over.

I mean, he became president in 2007, in 2007. Right after his dad died, yeah.

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